Minutes

Central Council: Brian Thomson (Chief), Adam Farkas (Asst. Chief), Bill Visser (EYC), Sue Sproule (GHPRF), Fran Doyle (ROCH), Owen Schneider (TORE), Mike Brown (TORW)
TAC: Garry Cooke, John Crawley
Admin: Diana Riley (Exec. Asst)
Guest: Alison Jones (Sec/Tres)


1)     Call to order at 10:04
2)     Motion to approval of Minutes from last meeting. M/S Owen/Sue. Carried
3)     Class Reviews:
           1. Handicapper Requests:

  •   Viper 830 - Adam Farkas
      Motion to adjust handicap to arrive at FS-ASP of 59.
      M/S Adam/Sue. Carried.
     (adjust FS-SP +27 to 48)

  • Melges IC 37 - Adam Farkas
    Action: Confirmation of handicap by review.

  • Farr 30 Mod CL - Adam Farkas
    A review of a new boat expected on the lake. Adam concerned that there will be impending appeals based on the sails & sprit and that we may need to establish a mod class. Consensus is that our rules are rules, fair or not, we will review this once the boat actually applies for a certificate. Without it, there is no way to properly assess it.
    Action: Include the “LM Graded CTL credit” as a new item for review at the next meeting (see Adam PPT)

  • Esse 850 - Adam Farkas
    Motion to adjust the handicap to achieve a FS-ASP of 75.
    M/S Owen/Fran. Carried.
    (adjust FS-SP -9 from 72 to 63)

  •  Flying Tiger - Fran Doyle (tabled from 2020)
     Ref: Rochester District Meeting - Feb 22, 2020
     Action: No Action.
     Notation: Procedurally this review cannot be done until this is formally brought to Central Council as an appeal review.


    4)   Handicapping items:

    a) SPINNAKER:

    Boats with Max Girth less than the foot - Sue Sproule
    (15 boats with incorrect ASP)
    Action: Send out a notice to the Handicappers of the affected boats to check the measurements and make appropriate corrections.
    Action: send draft to Sue on notice to go out.(cc: Central Council)

    Max Girth to Mid Girth - decision needed on how to store this data.
    1) Overwrite existing Max Girth value (no program changes needed, but data tracking is lost)
    2) Continue to store Max Girth and add Mid Girth field (program changes required, no data lost)
    Action: Copy the data values from the Max Girth to an un-used field in the data table for boats before the 2022 racing certificates are issued. Then overwrite the current Max Girth with any submitted Mid Girth values.

    LMPHRF Centerline rule - Adam Farkas
    - Table to next meeting

    b) MAINSAIL: nothing to address

    c) JIB:
    Must have headsail - from AGM - need to add to manual
    Action: Sub-committee of the CC will review the definitions & interactions with our rules and prepare for formal presentation at the next meeting.
    Committee: Gary, Bill & Owen ask Keven Piper.

    d) Point to Point Handicapping – deferred until next meeting
    Jamie Dike/Owen Schneider to present CHANGES to point to point handicaps.
    Consideration of Asym on a sprit as a separate handicap adjustment for PtoP
    Review additions to manual: FFH, Centerline credit

    e) Bloopers - Owen Schneider
    Action – see item c) Jibs – new definitions will take care of this
    from November meeting:
    Clarification of use, legal non legal.
    Action: Owen will draft wording to include in the manual

    f) Ballast - Owen (deferred from Nov meeting)
    a:Collection, b:storage, c: Use (ak), d: Programming nightmare
    Action: deferred.

    5.  Projects and Initiatives:
    Revise Alert Criteria - Diana Riley (Incomplete: from last meeting) - deferred
    Budget Review for Projects - for Executive

    6) Other items

    a) Box rule ratings - Fran Doyle
    From last meeting:
    Previous Action: Fran & Larry to speak with class reps on both sides of the border. To come up with a proposal. For next meeting.
    Action: tabled until March meeting.

    b) Handicappers Manual Changes 2021:
    - Include "Class Rules" to part of the manual title.
    - Modification to Part I re: changes to Part II, Section 6
    - Keels assessments guidance
    - Look into FFH allowed per our Manual
    Action: to do this in conjunction with the Jib changes by the Subcommittee in item 5. c)

    - FS handicap higher (slower) than NFS – presented and modified as included in the manual for 2021

    c) Handicappers Manual Changes 2022:
    - Must have Headsail (see 5c)
    - Sym Spinnaker Girth measurement
    - Limit on minimum sym spin mid-girth

Point to point additions including: FFH, CL
Action: Diana to supply sample certificate for next meeting, showing the FFH & P2P handicaps. Must be distinctive.

d) Setting new handicaps by Email - Owen
Modify Part 1, Section 8.2 to allow setting ratings by email.
Motion: To confirm that a meeting is required in order to allow for discussion on new handicaps. Sue/Brian T. Carried.

e) Alternate TOT - Jamie Dike – tabled until March meeting.
We need to make much more clear recommendations when to use the alternate ToT. It currently reads;
’This alternate formula may be appropriate for use in Day Races and Interclub Events"

Something along the lines;
This alternate formula is most appropriate for fleets of boats with a longer LOA then the base PHRF-LO Handicaps (avg35’). When the weather is expected to be consistently more than 8 knots for the entire series.

8)      Adjournment 3:45 pm

Next CC meetings:
Spring Meeting: March 28, 2021